a shame the ODI is gong to be a no result. Someone on the live commentary was mentioning the split innings they trialed in Australia: Team A bats 25, then Team B does before returning to Team A (or whatever split is thought suitable). Would this be a better formula for games that will almost certainty be rained off?
by dave6/29/2016 12:45:27 PM
I'd go 20 then 30 for maximum match chances, but it's not a bad idea at all when there's rain on the horizon.
by StaggerBreaths6/29/2016 12:46:20 PM
Suppose it just becomes a guessing game then.... a team could go hell for leather expecting rain and end up at 150/8 after 25, then the rain holds off and they're knackered.
by Andrei Rhodes6/29/2016 12:46:31 PM
if nothing else there is a T20 and it isn't a wasted day for all concerned. @Andrei, the 'rules' would be agreed before the game, rather than half way through like duckworth
by dave6/29/2016 12:47:44 PM
So you mean agreeing beforehand to shorten the game, not just have 4 innings of 25?
by Andrei Rhodes6/29/2016 12:48:46 PM
WICKET: Kent 142/2 (50.4 ov, trail by 53 - 2nd inns) v Derbyshire TWM Latham c sub b Madsen 74 (164) Partnership: 103 (35.4 ov) WL Madsen 11.4-2-25-1 JL Denly 42* (94)
by ESPNcricinfo Live6/29/2016 12:49:12 PM
And, isn't any game involving rain and the dreaded duckworth a lottery anyway? Somerset have had all manner of adjustments this season with it: some increased the score others decreased with no obvious reason why there was a difference game from game.
@Andrei, no have four innings, but if it is rained off at least there will be two innings completed opposed to what happened at Bristol
by dave6/29/2016 12:50:32 PM
They'd have to adjust DLS, one suspects, for team's knowledge of the other team's score at the halfway point. DL becomes DLS becomes DLSWTF.
by StaggerBreaths6/29/2016 12:51:52 PM
Also would you keep the wickets you'd lost in the first innings, or do the same ten span both?
by StaggerBreaths6/29/2016 12:52:17 PM
DL still works well enough in ODIs , totally useless for T20 tho
by Joe T Williams6/29/2016 12:52:23 PM
It's nice in principle but imagine this.
Team A bats with cloud everywhere, rain seems inevitable. Smash it all over to get a high score, get 150/8.
Clouds then break, sun shines, everything's fine.
Team B bats, plods at 3 an over to 75/0.
Team A are ruined, get bowled out for 160, Team B picks them off easily with ten wickets in hand.
by Andrei Rhodes6/29/2016 12:53:13 PM
i don't know, it just annoys me when there is only half a game and everyone knows it is only going to be half game. Why not be creative and get a game on that might have a positive result.
@Joe T - if one team bats 50, then yes i suppose, if both innings are reduced then no
by dave6/29/2016 12:53:30 PM
Andrei, you've just described a test match in England!
by dave6/29/2016 12:54:19 PM
quite a bit of talk yesterday about Moeen 'missing out' recently due to having missed some ODIs when Roy tucked in losing his place towards the top of the order in ODIs, I can imagine that he kind of wishes he'd not been picked today too, could be a thankless task as a bowler on this!
by Joe T Williams6/29/2016 1:02:07 PM
Hales off injured-ish - you never know, he might get a chance today!
by StaggerBreaths6/29/2016 1:06:10 PM
The weather could have made a fool of me but I would have dropped a few of the guys who have been playing three formats for this game. Do think England are doing the same thing to Vince they did to YJB before the 2013 Ashes, Will barely play between Test Series
by nickcricket6/29/2016 1:08:52 PM
UPDATE: Start delayed due to rain, Middlesex 419/5 (111 ov, trail by 94 - 1st inns) v Lancashire
by ESPNcricinfo Live6/29/2016 1:16:51 PM
RESULT: Match drawn Middlesex 419/5 (111 ov, trail by 94 - 1st inns) v Lancashire
by ESPNcricinfo Live6/29/2016 1:17:09 PM
There are off at the ODI, that will be that
by nickcricket6/29/2016 1:19:53 PM
And there's the inevitable.
by StaggerBreaths6/29/2016 1:19:57 PM
INDIVIDUAL 50: JL Denly 50* (135) Kent 168/2 (62.1 ov, trail by 27 - 2nd inns) v Derbyshire