Still think bonus points have a place, if a side is dominating but the weather makes a completed game unlikely they should still get something

I personally think reversing the toss rule would resolve the draw issue, give the visiting team the choice to bat or toss should in theory discourage roads, wouldn't encourage spin at all though and would encourage dibbly dobblers......basically whatever choice is made there are draw backs. ah, Yorks can bollox

I'd do away with bonus points completely tbh

How about if we said that any wickets taken on the first morning of a match don't count towards bowling bonus points?

Buts not a situation reserved just for Lords though is it?

Upping the number of points for a win isn't a bad idea

Can't help feeling that two major problems (overabundance of draws, farcical bad light finishes) with the CC would be resolved if Middlesex played less at Lord's.

Middlesex don't control the pitch at Lords, personally I think it holds them back having a main home ground that is very hard to get a positive result on. I do think the ECB needs to start looking at ground that without the weather playing a major part have too many draws

Does anyone know why Ross Whiteley is considered an all-rounder?

Broom isnt strong and stable then?

@SamInglis - a traditional English pitch used to be a seaming greentop which is not at all conducive to spin. Allowing visiting teams the option to bowl first means that teams would be taking a big risk by producing a greentop for their visitors to make first use off.

Gosh Broom is terrible.

Dave, I thought that was the aim of alienating KP.

I do slightly wonder whether groundsmen actually have as much control over how their pitches play as the ECB seem to think.

Going to get sucked in....do not get sucked in...sod it, I still have reservations over the toss rule mainly as I don't think it solves my biggest bug bear with CCC which is teams producing draw pitches week in week out, yes Middx i'm talking about you, amongst others, if anything I suspect counties now err on the side of caution for fear of being put in on a pitch which will do something for bowlers. I also think it doesn't really factor in that due to CCC being 4 and not 5 days that you have to have a slightly different pitch approach to get a result. Hand on heart, other than Somerset, can we honestly say any county has really embraced it? And even then Somerset are getting angry glances from the ECB about their pitches!

Root has Test Wickets as a spinner so he should count...Rashid would play anyway if Root was ever available

Colin Warner - I suppose they could have done that but would you have to then impose a set number of overs?

I wonder how you'd define a spinner Colin? Does Root count, say?

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