I've just realised that Hodd's Twitter handle is @Hoddfather. I can appreciate that.
by StaggerBreaths7/12/2016 10:44:48 AM
(Sorry for terrible pun talk when there is a good serious discussion going on, I just don't know much about the Somerset system. I am reading and absorbing.)
by StaggerBreaths7/12/2016 10:44:59 AM
Think a few of these Surrey batsmen what to be able to relax knowing they won't have to bat betwen the rain delays
by nickcricket7/12/2016 10:45:11 AM
Somerset's gap in development is not as stark as it appears. Several good players who are in the 25 - 32 age range were let go due to the playing personal we had at the time: Andrew and Durston are still plying their trade fairly well, but never progressed at Somerset. We let an all rounder go to both Surrey and Kent who have had reasonable success, Meschede is at Glamorgan. So i don't think finding good players has been an issue, but we haven't pushed them on - either at the moment or under Nosworthy.
by dave7/12/2016 10:45:45 AM
That's a chick, CountyChamp, not a duck. Poor.
by StaggerBreaths7/12/2016 10:45:58 AM
To be fair, I have no inside information whatsoever. Maynard may be a terrible coach who all the players deliberately perform poorly to get rid of. I doubt that, but I have no knowledge either way so I'm just looking at other potential factors.
by NemoUKS7/12/2016 10:46:22 AM
@dave Andrew & Durston are 32 and 35 respectively. Meschede is 24. Burke and Haggett (the two you allude to) are both 25. Trust me, it's seven barren years.
by NemoUKS7/12/2016 10:47:41 AM
The reasons behind that are however, above my pay grade!
by NemoUKS7/12/2016 10:48:04 AM
We have also, arguably, lost a lot of young players to other Counties. As per the u19 report below two of the Millfield pupils are at Glos and somewhere else. A young bat in the Northants top six, Newton, was born in Taunton and most of the Wiltshire side of players now seem to go to Hants.
by dave7/12/2016 10:48:06 AM
WICKET: Middlesex 374/9 (117.1 ov, lead by 138 - 1st inns) v Somerset JK Fuller c Allenby b Groenewald 93 (126) Partnership: 162 (46.0 ov) TD Groenewald 29.1-3-92-1 JAR Harris 73* (197)
by ESPNcricinfo Live7/12/2016 10:48:11 AM
by Geoff Eisenhauer7/12/2016 10:48:23 AM
Seven away! :(
by StaggerBreaths7/12/2016 10:48:31 AM
Could be all over today
by Geoff Eisenhauer7/12/2016 10:49:13 AM
I certainly don't think there is a lack of talent in the squad. A lot of v good players who other counties would love to have (Overtons/Gregory/Trego/Hildreth/Abell) plus Trescothick and Rogers but for me, there seems to be something missing in getting the most out of talents players. I look at Lancashire and think that they have done v well to get the most out of what on paper looks only an ok squad
by petepineapple817/12/2016 10:49:24 AM
fair point, Nemo. Perhaps it is as bad as you say. I suppose Wood and Edwards, bth openers who went to Notts, are also probably in the 35 plus age range now... i suppose due to doing so well in those 7 years, well not actually winning a ything but getting close, meant the lasck of players coming through wasn't noticed
by dave7/12/2016 10:49:42 AM
So did Groenewald bowl it... a bit Fuller?
by StaggerBreaths7/12/2016 10:49:44 AM
Lancs have been lucky, they basically got promoted with lots of 'Overseas' then though the youngers in at the deep end and they have done very well
by nickcricket7/12/2016 10:50:56 AM
@Pete, i think we never knew how good we had it with Brian Rose. Nosworthy had no idea and Maynard, i agree, appears to struggle to get the best out of the players. I know several young players have progressed, but i recon they would have done whatever and there is an argument that some should have progressed more? Nosworthy described Joverton as the next Morne Morkel some 3/4 years ago and he is just perhaps getting there now